Enough is enough, its time i once wear my economist cap on, as for those who know me, i am but all a trained Economist.
Prof Rodestien Roden once spoke of his Big Push theory. A theory that had touched my soul, as one of the few ecomomic theory that was practical.
The idea was simple, a low developed country, put in a Basic manufacturing Industry.. and it will lead the economy through various Back ward forward linkages.
Even my loved , closest near and dear once, will think a zillion times to peg me as a communist. But today on their 30th anniversary I defend them for lack of better choice.
I hear today singur as a farce to the face of Bengal, and the communist government has done nothing to take Bengal to India.
But Dudes, Singur is the gift of the communists to bengal, tomorrow we will be the ones saying we have the TATA car factory to lead from the front.
Prof Roden once said, you establish a basic factory such as steel or automobile.. what you require is labour.. and raw material in case of car auto- comps, so what happens next auto comps set plants.. means more labour..
Auto comps means steel and aluminum.. hence ,ore industries.. and impetus to already dying industries of bengal
For once media housdes, should not report for politicians and report as economist, i hope the IIMCs have taught you guys the basics of that.
Nandi gram and singur are different stories
and tomorrow the media will hail singur for the engine of economic growth of India, rest to say bengal
And yes Left front , thios is my tribute to you..for ruling Bengal for 30 years
come next elections ill vbote for thee, as in Bengal ill never have a choice of not voting for you, the oppostion you have with 30 seats in the assembly is everything but a choice..
But that does not mean you guys are the best.
But you are secular, and i respect you withoput liking you
congrats
Thursday, June 21, 2007
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hey dis is kasturi here..all said & done can we actually overlook the massacre dat took place in the name of industrialization?..growth doesnt imply the development of a selected strata of the society..and dats the reason we still rank 137 in HDI despite having an above 9% GDP growth rate..and dats probably the reason y intellectuals all over the place has condemned this process..i can lend u a few EPWs if u are interested whr economists have explicitly mentioned the alternatives & y dis is NOT the best way to go abt wid it..for now u can also check out this site & mind u its a pro-marxist one and still these are wot they have to say! http://www.marxist.com/india-nandigram-massacre-peasants060407.htm
As i have always maintained , ends justify the means,
If tomorrow the ends are of a greater good, for me any means are justified.
secondly Nandigram, is a closed issue, it will have no industrialisation as Government has announced. Its a matter of lawlessness that has caused the murder. What about the families of the cops lynched at nandigram, was that justified.
We should see Singur and Nandigram as two separate stories. the Tata's and the Government had offered a land rate 30% higher than the market rate.
And trust me Singur will be our engine of growth. It will be this car plant, followed by the auto-comp plant that will provide blue collared employment.
The rural women emancipation programme that the Tata's have taken up so that they are self sufficient, and can run canteens, and can stitch uniforms, will help towards sustainable development.
And i agree whats happening in Singur is absolutely right as as i see bring rich dividends, to bengal
it depends on the perspective u see..watever program is being held is for the benefit of only a handful of ppl..wot abt the majority which are robbed of thr sole source of income & pushed into the darkness of misery & uncertainity???..and i dont think that the "end" is the only thing dat matters..its how u arrive thr dat shud also b of importance..even, i at a point of time was at a loss to figure out whthr its right or wrong..but trust me the number of articles i read on the editorials, on magazines confirmed my belief dat its not the rite way!!!
the fact is a pareto optimality is a myth that only exists in the theoretical edgeworth box. So with every profit some body has to loose out, and the fact is what about the 1000s(4-5 if not much more) who will be employed here.
Nobody is sent oblivion thats a political propaganda, the reality in ground zero is different. The contract laborer you are talking about always had this uncertainty ,
and i have to be the devils advocate here to say that the y have been sacrificed to the 5000 jobs that will be created, and its downward filtration effect to the economy
also mind you a chunk of the people you talking of are being trained by the Tatas , few 100s have been working for them already , and the trust me the people who you are talking of their numbers dont cross into 1000.
As for as magazines are concerned their work is to sensitize issues and snow ball them.
Trust me my sources are as good as horses mouth,
on your congratulation to communist govt on their 30 years of rule......
for you dear friend opposition may be everything but a choice, but let me tell you people of Bengal are intimidated to vote for the communists. there is no mandate from people. i agree this happens everywhere....but in its maximum in communist states.
i am not into the economic aspect of your blog....but nandigram incident shows the destructiveness of communists who are the worst human rights violaters in history.
i do not agree with your ENDS JUSTIFY MEANS THEORY. for today the means mebbe about 10-20 human lives.....what about tomorrow ?? would you still be justifying if the number would have been say 500...........
if the means was 5oo lkives, the end could not have justified it alll.. so still end justified at all
as for as congratulating, the left.. do I have a choice, i might aswell shoot 6 rounds of live catridges into me , rather than voting for that theatrical, uncouth nincampoop of an opposotion
so you are bang on
I dont have a choice
why do you look for choice a create one yourself? be a politician, start a political movement, and see if you can become Bengal's 'only other choice'
All the best - and thanks for not keeping your ballot secret
dude what i meant is people do have choice(even though you don't)......but they are not allowed to exercise that. thats how communist govt holding onto power for so long. they intimidate common people to give them a mandate......
@ bro
is it rang de effect bro ??? and don't worry for zico not keeping his ballet a secret....he won't even go near the polling booth on voting day.....probably lying at some frnds place having beer.
@bisu
no that was not really a rang de basanti effect - do be very honest i havent seen the full movie.
but what you are saying about a communist government is not entirely right. the people who mandate their governments matter the most. to see the effects of mandate you should see Kerala state elections as an example where communists have been brought to power, thrown out and brought back again quite a few times. the reason the WB govt has stayed is because it did a lot of work in the grass root level to ensure stability. and the work doesnt mean intimidating people alone. yes they have done that too, but its a case where its got a majority voice shouting at a few. i would hate to compare it thus, but its something like sheepdogs guiding a herd of sheep towards a cause entirely for the sheep.... and a few sheep that cant see the cause (because they are stupid) and deviate, are barked at and brought back in line.
The Chaos is because of a paradigm shift from grass root politics, to a more globalism backed attitude.
There will be a sense of insecurity amongst the grass root as till now they have been protected, and now every man for himself. They are so used to being protected , they dont think they can fend for themselves.
History has always shown, there has been a chaos every time there is a change, thats the essence of Paradigm shifts.
As for as a communist Government in Bengal. Ill support them now as they have given up there red colour , and dorn the laissez faire hat.
And i dont mind a liberal free market Government backed with a welfare state agenda.
I dont call that communists i called them FABIAN.
Hence ill vote for a Fabian Government, who are centrist in nature, even if they are called COMMUNIST PARTY OF INDIA MARXIST
Well lets see....The issue will make sense if the land of Singur was a fertile land capable of growing crops. If its is then I understand the rage if its not why care? When the Industrial revolotion started in Europe and later on in the US manufacturing sectors were opened in places where there was no scop of great agriuculture yield. Further people might say that cacasuians removed the native amricans to dig old fields. But again most of those places were used for growing tobacoo. And despite such meaures US still peoduces more tobaco than the rest of the world and detroit still has a c0nsiderable share in car manufacturiung.
This debade wuld make more sense if it involves the quality of land and the original intent (pre purchase) of Singur.
Further the car factoiry may propel ecooimic growth, but thats debatable. I see insurance companies (more cars more pollution and more health hazards)and road construction companies becoming richer (maintainence contract). More that a cheap car that runs on gasoline, we could have built a betrer version of REVA. in fact Singur project may have its roots from Prahalad's " Fortune at the bottom of the pyramid" but the net result may not be sustainable.
heres how i look at it...
all of you..about choices..political or not.hokum.bollocks.
i blv one can eiher create something for him/herself...or make it happn by hook or crook.and yes there is a diff.
political....are you guys all stuck in the toilet bongs or what.???cant there be an "industrial revolution"in all its glory and controversy ...without a few, beyond their time old men meddling.
and us bums sitting and commenting on othr ppls blogs.
i dunno...but me being communist/leftist/whatver-ist is as vital to my identity as me being hindu outcasted muslim.blah,kidding.
deal is....i agree that singur is a fertile strip and tht it need not be utilized in such a way....
but apart from soil fertility and agriculutral productivity...of which im assuming that all of you know just about squat..there happens to be much more to just them 2 factors for increasing outut and rural development.
the factory is a good beginning to bridging the gap between the rural and urban scenario in the mindset of the farmers and villagers.they will realize and know of things that they are not aware of,and will be able to avail of facilities et al that will increase living standards.social development,education etc is expected to follow...and agriculture could hence forth be practised as a business along more scientific lines...and not as a labourers proffession,as most of you pseudo intellectuals are imagining.
urbanization isnt a vice if its planned and organized.it is ugly only when desperate souls decide that they need more potty space.even if they have to creats that in the virtual space.
call me whtever for encouraging this move.communisim prevails only in university campuses and government gatherings.
i think this was a good move.and i am not such an emotional sissy that i shall sympathize with all the farmers who lost their livelihood.
ppl lose jobs in the city too.
so sue me or screw me....but this is pointless.and i know you all continue to be atels in the true bing sense.
"the factory is a good beginning to bridging the gap between the rural and urban scenario in the mindset of the farmers and villagers.they will realize and know of things that they are not aware of,and will be able to avail of facilities et al that will increase living standards.social development,education etc is expected to follow...and agriculture could hence forth be practised as a business along more scientific lines...and not as a labourers proffession,as most of you pseudo intellectuals are imagining."
well.....its not that smooth a process as it is written here. industrialisation does bridge the gap ......between urban and rural places.....but not between rural and urban people. are pushed to more interior places. i doubt any ab-original jamshedpur-ian got anykind of significant benefit from its industrialisation. its now a fu***** highly developed and rich city.....lifestyle unmatched in india......but whom did it benefit......those people whose lands were taken with great promise are working mostly as sick housemaids.
neways, i am not much into this debate. all i want to ask everyone here is that....if these f****** bunch of hypocrates (communists) really believe that industrialisation can take the economy forward.....and they want it to happen.....why the fuck are they dead against it in orissa. what the fuck is the difference between the two.......why that lame man (karat) his equally idiotic wiffey camping in orissa against
I-N-D-U-S-T-R-I-A-L-I-S-A-T-I-O-N
????????????????????
is it not hypocricy....bcz i dont see any difference in the ground level between these two states ????
el brillanto... Bisu, the Oraon Munda, soren are ruling Jharkhand today. Arjun Munda was a worker with TATA motors.. and look at him today. So that partly answers your question.
Again the communists in Bengal have transformed into capitalists.. and no more leftist. Now there has been a huge divide betwen the politburo and the Maoist ,Leninist. the Maoist leninst are lone survivors of communism in the world. Even china is quasi capitalist are they not.
Its just a tag now. Communism id finished done with.
The naxals are again showing there ugly head in Kolkata, and they will be crushed once more, this time by cpim government. They wanted to burn a tram..went running away with their tail between their legs with one siren of the cops.
COMMUNISM IS OVER.. HAIL GLOBALISATION
well i would love to see death of communism as you are saying. but you have not answered my question. why do they discriminate ? why are they against the industrialisation process in orissa ???
POLITBURO are not the ones who are against indusrialisation in Orissa , its the Naxals .. they are against Industrialisation anywhere, they want the primitive methods of production, backed with subsidies, and no market for the products any way. Thats their ideology and theory of sustainable development. But yes the Flora fauna lost will be an issue.. well the areas are a goldmine of ecological bio-diversity.( which in India is getting extinct,, much faster than fertile land)
If its the Politburo who is also opposing.. then it also is pure politics. they are not in power, niether is a party in power who they support.
there is rocket science behind it. its politics of opportunity
its the naxals.......the karats !!!
this is not politics of oppertunity......this is hypocrisy. no more comments needed on this.
when is the next blog coming...or you still pushing bengal hard ?
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